"The Other White Meat": Conversations with Erika Lopez

Ellen M. Gil-Gomez

In part one of this two-part interview (MeatJournal 1.1, Spring 2005), Ellen M. Gil-Gomez asked author Erika Lopez to comment on the phenomenon of "straight white guys" identifying with Lopez's main characters--at the same time as they're "freaked out" by graphic images of penises. Lopez responded:

LOPEZ: Okay, what's interesting to me is that your boys, or you, or somebody, picked up on the whole "white guy" thing. I went to Puerto Rico for a conference years ago and said I felt like I didn't fit in with any gay Latino thing. I didn't speak Spanish, I didn't feel like a gay person, or even a woman some-times. I just felt like a strange person. But a person with a big sense of entitlement and wanted and felt like a "white guy."

Some people clapped.

I was glad they didn't kill me.

I do feel like a white guy in so many ways. Yeah, I've fucked 'em and I've wanted money from 'em or wanted to be taken care of by them. But I felt like an imposter. Like I was playing some girly role I was never quite good at, and that's what you have to do in order to fulfill the contract. Just the way it is, like it or not. Whoever stays home has to do most of the dishes and laundry, like it or not, whoever gets paid for has to give a helluva lot more head. Just the contract. Nothing's for free. You live with your folks too long, you think its free or cheap rent, but you're paying secret bills with interest you can't even fathom yet. And the irony is that I'm not being unfaithful to "the colored girl cause" ... no I'm being FAITHFUL because we're supposed to have and not remind anyone of anything unless it works for a second. Lift your eyebrow if you wanna tip the colored girl card. But make them forget. Don't get offended by jokes. Smack 'em on the ass and tell 'em one of your own, one up them.

on to part two!

Erika Lopez is an artist, writer, performer, and wanna-be movie producer, with a number of books to her credit: Flaming Iguanas: An All Girl Road Novel Thing; Lap Dancing for Mommy: Tender Stories of Disgust, Blame and Inspiration; They Call Me Mad Dog: A Story for Bitter, Lonely People; and Hoochie Mama: The Other White Meat, all published by Simon and Schuster. All graphics, with the exception of the MeatJournal.com logo, are copyright Erika Lopez. We use them here with her permission, and thank her from the bottom of our meaty hearts for their use. Wow! For more of Lopez's work, see her website at http://www.erikalopez.com/.



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